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The Religious Wars of the Pandemic Endgame, Rebel Wisdom (podcast)

source:: https://rebelwisdom.podbean.com/e/the-religious-wars-of-the-pandemic-endgame-rebel-wisdom/

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religious framing: relying on the “aha” moment. single-mindedness. if we could only expose the pedo cult we’d save the day; if we could only vaccinate everyone we’d end the pandemic, etc.

jon haidt’s ref_the-righteous-mind-jonathan-haidt - use to be that conservatives were all 5 moral frameworks, liberals were only 2 (excluded purity). liberals are now creeping up on the conservatives, adding “purity” during the vaccination age vaccine purity has infected the west - Mary Harrington.

if we live in a religious age, our leaders are going to be religious figures. we can sit here and spout rationality, but it’s not going to be enough.

the internet is populated by various religions. successor ideology, qanon, etc. they form online and burst into the real world.

need to have shared relevance to go forward: if I show you some evidence, but you say “that’s irrelevant because [it’s not vetted, that insititution is corrupt, etc etc]” then we can’t even yet discuss that piece of evidence before addressing the relevance question.

free will is a big part of this: “i have free will, but you don’t because you’re brainwashed”. everyone is arguing about Decartes’ deceiving demon.

Hermeneutics of Suspicion: there’s all this unseen machinery at work (unconscious, bougourgise, textualitty) and you don’t realize it’s guiding all of your thinking. both sides think they are just about to expose the other as a giant conspiracy.

We should challenge the hermeneutics of suspicion itself. epistomelogical arrogance has people say, “Oh, the suspicion thing, ywa whatever we’re past that, we know there’s a conspiracy”.

The virus itself is mystical and forces us into biblical ways of being: purity, ritual, superstition.

Narrative Overreach results in Conspiracy Theories

#TODO

narrative overreach results in -> conspiracy theories.

“you only override [this] appearance as being deceptive by substituting in [this one] that you consider to be truthful”. you can only know that you’re self-deceived in a moment of self-correction (Verveke).

herm of sus is parasitic on a deeper experience: appearance isn’t deceiveng us from reality, but exposing depths of reality. that’s beauty. Beauty, when aligned with the truth and good is that.
if no herm of beauty, cannot be herm of sus. you need to know the reality-disclosing appearances in order to know when you’re being deceived.

heterodox difficulty is the 80/20. 80% of questions of the orthodoxy are good, honest, worthwhile and reasonable. and: narrative control of the ‘thesis’ side (not having certain conversations at all, censorship) has created this 80% genuine point opportunity - but it also allows in the other 20%.

notice where in your thinking you are when hearing something. fight or flight? detached analysis? being taken along a narrative? curious? driven to the bottom of the brain stem? etc.

conspiracies often go: yes (incentives) -> yes (broad strokes) -> yes (corruption) …to “specific nefarious actions by specific people”. it’s the last place where the narrative breaks down for people.