sourceType:: podcast author:: Bret Weinstein sourcePublication:: Lex Fridman Podcast ref:: https://overcast.fm/+eZyBMVdQQ noteTitle:: Lex Fridman #194 with Bret Weinstein “Truth, Science and Censorship in the Time of a Pandemic”
Lex Fridman #194 with Bret Weinstein “Truth, Science and Censorship in the Time of a Pandemic”
https://overcast.fm/+eZyBMVdQQ/2:04:26
Bret steelmanning the pro-vaccine argument
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https://overcast.fm/+eZyBMVdQQ/1:56:18
Bret and Lex: it has to feel like growth without actually relying on growth (fourth frontier, game b, etc) Game B / Fourth Frontier
in ref_lex-fridman-194-bret-weinstein, They’re talking about Game B / Fourth Frontier and spreading good ideas and whatnot. It made me think about those meta civilizational incentives: Let’s say we can straightforwardly define “good ideas” and leave that bit settled for the sake of argument. If you want good ideas to spread, it matters who picks them up. If Bret and Lex had a civilizational-fixing message here, it wouldn’t matter if a whole lot of well-meaning nobodies like myself integrate that position. You need powerful people - leaders, the wealthy, etc. - to promulgate the ideas. So you’re left up against a different problem - one in the higher-order structure - the problem is that the incentives and pathways to influence may not select for or be open to the “good people” who would otherwise promulgate the message. I guess this is one of the paradoxes of Game B / Fourth Frontier.
A follow-on question is: what set the incentives in place that don’t select for the “good” people mentioned directly above? What’s the meta-structure that created the structure?
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https://overcast.fm/+eZyBMVdQQ/3:20:05
Bret on the meaning of life and liberating people on Lex:
paraphrasing. essentially my exact position: “I wish I didn’t have to tell you this, but you asked the question. It’s a horror. it’s totally meaningless. We know we won’t survive the eventual heat death of the universe. so given that, we have to ask, what’s the best thing we can do. being a free human is the greatest thing. Given that we’re in this situation and we can’t do anything about it, the requirement/goal is to spread that experience as much as possible. Must get sustainable (in a pleasant way, not as a dictatorship), as the first requirement to taking that goal out into the far future. so the ultimate meaning may be nonexistent, but the proximate one is satisfying”