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sourceType:: podcast author:: Max Borders sourcePublication:: Jim Rutt Show ref:: https://overcast.fm/+S_7cdNyNo noteTitle:: Decentralism; Max Borders. (podcast)

Decentralism; Max Borders. (podcast)

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propensity to addiction has a lot to do with people’s discount rate.

discount-rate-time

Collective action

collective action is the action of many individual actors. but we are interdepenent, and collective action / collective action problems are not the same as individual actions/problems.

Full-on Decentralization (ultra-pluralism) vs Game B’s “coherent pluralism”. humanity must be about human wellbeing and capacity, and whatever we do must be done in balance with nature.

pluraism, syndicates

normative pluralism: we ought to be able to self-organize into distinct tribes where our values overlap more.

(game b might be a variant on anarcho-syndicalism. syndicalism from Chomsky.)

Morality should be practiced, like a martial art. something you get more excellent at. This is kind of eastern, or maybe greek/roman - as the Virtues. in opposition to “bloodless liberalism”. A consent-based society is about an active discovery process of real people - not abstractions..

Achieving a consent-based society forces active discovery.

deflationary currencies incentivize hoarding (counter to economic growth). inflationary currencies incentivize relentless spending and no saving.

the bar for exercising compulsion over someone who has done nobody wrong needs to have an extremely high bar for justification.

political “contracting and authority” is different than business contracting because it’s tied to a particular piece of land.

asymptotic anarchy: get closer and closer to anarchy without ever actually getting there. decentralize until you find somewhat stable equilibria. using the principle as a north star, but you know you never really get to it (this is literally what I was saying to jai-lee the other day about having a grand meta plan for humanity and aligning towards it, knowing you may not reach it - or may not reach it in your lifetime, or 100 lifetimes.)

Rutt: “there’s no reason a town of 25,000 shouldn’t be able to make their own decisions about say, drinking on the street (beyond whatever the town’s state says).” Subsidiarity.

Can you get a, say, polluting factory that is externalizing their harm outside of their community, to cease and desist without a giant leviathan state? through some sort of decentralized process?
we have examples of this right now with the international sphere and the common law.
decentralized enforcement doesn’t mean no enforcement, it means it looks a little different and it likely isn’t about some final leviathan power that is required to be “with the angels”, because it almost never is.

jim says we need something “state-like” and non-consensual to deal with stuff on the ground (like pollution). max says maybe, but hopefully not. they agree about subsidiarity.

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